It was enjoyable producing the first programme in the CRiSAP at 20 radio series on Resonance Extra. Focusing on the ‘pre-history’ and early years of CRiSAP, the programme was centred on an in-person discussion with Cathy Lane (who was the founding co-director of the research centre with me) and with Mark Peter Wright (who is the current Director) and contributions from John Wynne, David Toop and Peter Cusack, all founding members. I will be appearing in later conversations on various of our projects – contributing to themed shows on publications, on In The Field 1 and In The Field 2, on Sound Gender Feminism Activism and in one devoted to listening.